Defacing the flag in honor of the inauguration of Barack Obama?
Flag Pic by Baltimore Sun
US Flag Code: “The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.” Read Read Read
Check this out! The official Flag of the Obama States of America
If Barack Hussein Obama was any president at all he would speak out and condemn these people of his for degrading Old Glory! Obama are you patriotic or are you unpatriotic? Here is your chance to let the American people know if you love America or not! What kind of president would allow such a thing at their own inauguration? Americans if you were not bitter and upset, you sure as hell should be now after your flag has been degraded! Shame onthe Obama people! I have no respect for you!
And Obama this was your good friend and he was a known terrorist to you. Oh look what he is doing to the American Flag! The good and the bad rubs off on you does it not Barack!
And lets don’t forget Democrats wrapped up their convention they also wrapped up the America flags which they used to show their patriotism. They wrapped them up in garbage bags that were set aside dumpsters outside of INVESCO Field.
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Americans don’t say that you are not upset about the degrading of The United States of America flag? Our Military men and women should be mad as hell when their Commander in Chief allows the American flag to be defaced by his political supporters!
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(1) Obama Supporters Desecrate US Flag
Obama also announced his permanent campaign, Organizing for America, today to push his agenda on the country. This sounds like an offshoot of his Marxist Youth Corps that he talked about back in November.
(2) Video & Quote: A New Declaration of Independence…
Obama: “What is required is a new declaration of independence”
(3) Barack Obama’s Campaign Headquarters Displays a Communist Flag
Right next to the picture of Barack Obama is a Cuban flag with Che Guevara’s portrait. this just shows us the type of person who is supporting Barack Obama.
(4) Obama Supporters Deface Flags In His Honor
Don’t question their patriotism, and don’t expect Obama to say anything about it. A new day has dawned:
Can’t say they don’t go all out. LMAO
What a disrespect to our country?
its funny how the black population talks so much hate about the states, and now they wave the flag with pride
every other class of people…the chinese, the japanese, the koreans, the italians, the french, the indians, the american indians, the spanish, the cubans, the mexicans, the canadians, and on…can come to this county and assimilate and succeed
but not the god
damnblacksthey do nothing but bitch and bitch and bitch and take and take and take
they will bleed us dry
Anthony: none of the classes you mentioned were enslaved by other Americans. Do you think that might have something to do with it? And are you sure that ALL blacks are angry? That there are NO successful blacks? Not even a few? The Census Bureau says there are 40.7 million African Americans. Do you think it’s accurate to tar them all with the same brush? Our president elect is black, do you think Harvard Law, HLR editor, attorney, college professor, U.S. senator, POTUS doesn’t equal success? Are you as successful as Obama? You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.
Our servicemen and women do NOT fight for the flag. They fight for what it represents: the Constitution, for example.
My idea of supporting the troops is to send them to war with adequate body armor. Like Bush didn’t. Shame on him.
GTP’s outrage over the flag is totally phony. Bush/Rove were masters at questioning other’s patriotism – they had no qualms about attacking John Kerry’s patriotism even thought he is an authentic war hero with the Purple Hearts to prove it. And Republican Saxbe Chambliss, who evaded serving during the Vietnam War, attacked Max Cleland’s patriotism – a man who lost three limbs to a grenade in Vietnam! The hypocracy is sickening.
Last question GTP, which I know you will not answer: has anyone given you a 5 cent 3 inch plastic flag at, say, a 4th of July parade? Did you retire it with a full ceremony afterward? Of course you threw it away, you hypocrite
goodtimepolitics: And you complain about being called names there Moon Jaguar and then have the gall to call someone else hypocrite! I can not remember getting a plastic flag from anyone on the 4th of July! The president is the highest office in this country and he of all people should respect the Flag and set a good example! But no he amitted to using drugs and would not sulute the Flag until people started comdemning him for it! Shame on your president Moon Jaguar! Oh and by the way I guess you have not heard, Obama is 50% white and we as yet do not know what percentage of black he is!
Moon Jaguar: My idea of supporting the troops is to send them to war with adequate body armor. Like Bush didn’t. Shame on him.
War funding bill : Sens. Barack Obama (Ill.) and Hilary Clinton (N.Y.) were among the 14 who opposed the bill.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/1/votes/181/
goodtimepolitics: Shame on Obama and Clinton would you not say, they’re the ones voting against funding the troops!
Moon Jag
The slavery argument bores the hell out me.
whites have been enslaved—look at the pyramids
american indians were enslaved
the chinese were enslaved
the american indians have to lowest socio-economic class of any people in the states, and never complain
they werent just enslaved, they were murdered
there were 20,000 slaves imported into the united states last year but no one gives a damn because they were sex slaves (as per dept of state statistics)
each year, there are 500.000 women who leave the ukraine to go to copenhagen, mexico, and the states entering the sex industry as slaves—yes, 500.000 per year
46% of the working age black male population is unemployed
1/3 of black men are in the prison system, awaiting trial, or are on parole
black men are disproportionately represented in the prison population with 42%–whites are 40%
but black males are only 7% of the population–with the highest crime ages being between 15-35 (20 years) would actually only be roughly 2%
therefore, 2 percent makes up 42 percent of the prison population
but i dont know what im talking about right moon jag?
barack hussein obama was admitted to harvard because of minority status
i consider myself far more successful–i dont have to con and lie for a living
i dont have to rely on deceit
i dont have to side step responsibility
no other country in the world would take a population of roughly 40,00 slaves and turn them into a 40 million man liability
look at the welfare roles
illegitimate birth rate
rates of transmission of social disease
teen pregnancy
dept of justice stated that there were 37, 260 reported cases of rape of black on white (rape is notoriously underreported)
in the same time frame, guess how many were white on black—
ZERO
so…piss off
anthony, I’m sure your facts are (mostly) true; however, facts of this type are now classified as hate facts and must not be mentioned in public.
Term seems first to have been used by immigration-control publicist Peter Brimelow, in a Novermber speech.
… Brimelow said one of the first things he believes Obama will do as president is push through a federal hate speech law that will include “hate facts – the things everybody knows are true but can’t be said.”
Moon Jag
a few more things
1 obama never even served—at all
i have as well
i know what its like to look up at a flag blowing in the wind—one that i have sweated and bled for
i did not sweat and bleed because the constitution was blowing in the wind (however, it is now)
i understand what you are meaning to say, but the flag is synonymous
the two are intertwined
2 you use a type of argument known as the Fallacy of the Dramatic Instance. For example, I may state that blind people do not drive, and you may then state that you saw a video with Ray Charles driving, therefore I am wrong. One can not use one example to dispel an entire argument.
I may say that the gambling odds are in favor of the house, and that vegas is built on losers. you may then argue that you knew someone who made 200 bucks and people do win in vegas.
yes but more people lose than win
yes there is the occasional successful black male—probably due to preferential hiring and contracts to minority businesses
3 i cant call obama a senator as he only spent 140 days in office and never once wrote a piece of legislation (but wrote a few books) and rarely cast a vote on a bill
but thats right, i dont know what im talking about
and this may be hard to believe, but i will stand up for reparations to amend for slavery
i think its fair, and i think it should be done
i believe that every living slave owner should pay every living slave that worked for him
i think that the living slave should be able to submit a time card
subtract for housing, food, medical care, clothing, and transatlantic transportation (because they stayed)
why should i have to pay for it, i never owned anyone
why should they collect, they were never owned
but im in a 50% tax bracket
so i dont get paid for the work that i do six months a year
my wages go to taxes to be given to someone else who lives off of the government
so im a slave half of the year
so again…piss off again
John Kerry wrote his own commendations which is in very very poor taste
its tacky and in bad manners
then he came home and testified before congress while wearing his uniform (not even his dress uniform, but cammies) and sold his friends down the river—the same guys who covered his back and kept him alive
yea
thats a real hero
denied ever meeting hanoi jane fonda
until a picture popped up of the two of them at a rally
yea
great guy
a real hero
not to mention that his wife was married to john heinz (a republican) who died
when married to him, she constantly spoke out against the kennedys and the liberals
then she marries kerry
and dont you know all of the sudden they are on the same stage and patting each other on the back
you are an uninformed moron
Did someone call the one and only best flip-flopper in congress…Kerry! Yes thats him the stupid one!
“no other country in the world would take a population of roughly 40,00 slaves and turn them into a 40 million man liability”
When was it that there were only 40,000 slaves in America? At the end of the Civil War, there were between 2 and 3 million slaves.
“but im in a 50% tax bracket”
Really? Federal tax brackets top off at 35%.
“dept of justice stated that there were 37, 260 reported cases of rape of black on white (rape is notoriously underreported)
in the same time frame, guess how many were white on black—
ZERO”
Back that up, pissant. Statistically, that is virtually impossible. And when Googled, the only sources found to make similar claims were white supremicist sites like David Dukes. In other words: you’re a liar. And a racist liar at that.
“god damn blacks”
That just kind of sums you up.
“i dont know what im talking about”
Well, if you insist…
BTW, GTP, that whole flags-at-the-DNC-getting-tossed-out-in-the-garbage thing was debunked long ago. The DNC wasn’t planning to throw out the flags; they were collected for use at future rallies. And some “enterprising” (I’m trying to be polite) Republican volunteers from Colorado Springs (my adopted town) swiped them off the loading dock. First they said that the flags were “in” the dumpsters, then they said they were “next to” the dumpsters, and finally they were “near” the dumpsters. Nothing but a cheap political trick.
Statistically, that is virtually impossible.
Nope. I wondered about that rape stat, too, but it’s from the DOJ survey.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=F3E3CD97-197F-4D31-BF36-A4CBA45FCB13
Debunked by who diogenes the lier Barack Obama and his supporters? Look at the bags with all the other trash and flags all mashed together and tell me again they’re being saved! Sure isn’t any way to save The United States Flag! Goes to show how much Obama and his supporters like you think about America!
Diogenes
i never stated it was united states federal income tax
i said that i am taxed at 50 percent
in addition to my income tax, i pay business taxes, sales taxes, etc
i actually pay much more than a mere 50 percent
dont assume
furthermore
i am not a racist
there are numerous people of color that i have come to know who are of very high caliber
some of them i knew in the service and would not have hesitated to lay my life down for them
i was referring to the losers the lazy the grabbers the violent felons etc
i dont like the gangsta culture
the killaz
the loud
the belligerent
i am a realist
i recognize that no one builds a slum
no contractor plans a ghetto
the residents make it that way
i understand that there is a school within walking distance of (practically) every home
in america, all it takes is the initiative to go
i comprehend that there is a culture of entitlement
i have seen a black family at a rodeo, and they were not harassed at all
how about a white guy at a rap concert—do you think he could expect the same level of safety
so
before you call me a liar, look up the information to verify it
because right now you look like an ass clown
i am already frankly bored with you
so i will leave you to your own devices
how about you go to one of those schools i mentioned
here is a start
go to the department of justice website
center for disease control
department of education
department of housing and urban development
department of labor
nevermind
i dont even have enough respect for you to finish my senten…
Amen to Anthony Ryan.
It is the culture of “poor-pitiful-me-I’m-a-victim” that has brought down the blacks. And they have done it to themselves.
Hi Kitty, Matt Dillon here! LOL
Remind me never to cross Anthony Ryan cause we would have an OK Corral shootout which I rather stay away from! I just had to say that, so now carry on Anthony Ryan !
Nonsense. Figures lie and liars figure.
There is NO WAY that there was not one single white on black rape was committed anywhere in the country.
Possible explanations?
Unreported.
More than a single assailant.
More than a single attacker.
Miscategorization.
It cannot be, statistically.
And I love racists who say “I’m not racist… some of my best friends are black!”
Tell us again, Marshall Dillon, how you’re not a racist but you feel perfectly comfortable with saying “god damn blacks”?
You don’t pay sales tax, either. Your customers do. All you do is collect it. So who’s playing the “poor poor pitiful me” card?
You are certainly right on one thing, though. I don’t know you.
Nor would I care to.
Don’t bother responding, y’all. Wouldn’t want you to miss today’s cross burning.
Now who is racist diogenes? You are! And by the way cool down, you’re accusing the wrong person in this conversation! Cool down, get a towel and wipe off that sweat!
Nonsense. Figures lie and liars figure.
You’re saying you don’t accept the Justice Department figures because they’re “statistically impossible” — a nonsense term, since nothing is statistically impossible unless it’s impossible period. What do you know that the rest of us don’t? For the sake of argument, let’s say there are white on black rapes going unreported. How many do you think there are? 37,000?
Hey, I’ll bet you make your students watch “To Kill A Mockingbird.”
The Obama just told the Lincoln Memorial crowd that “anything is possible,” so you may to revise your comments.
No! Just wait a little while and Obama will flip back over again! Flip flip around the bushes we go! LOL
Heavens. To know that there are people out here that still – STILL – blame all kinds of things on race and -continue- to place said blame on that race in 2009. And yes, it goes both ways.
First of all, the flags. Really? You guys are sitting here ready to chew Obama’s head off for putting flags in a bag, yet did you happen to write an article for all the people who wear flag T-shirts? How about all the people who decorate their cakes with flags and eat them on the fourth of July? There are those people that paint flags on their cars and drive in all kinds of conditions as well. Oh! Lets not forget all the children that make flags in school out of construction paper that end up getting thrown away or destroyed. Point is, if you want to rag on someone about this, rag on everyone because the MAJORITY of people in this country would be guilty of the same damned thing. I personally find it disgusting that some company put Obama’s face on a flag and on coins, but I’m not going to turn to racist hate over it simply because it’s rampant with everyone in this country save a small few.
As to those of you spouting that you have black friends who are great upstanding people, then turn around to disparage Obama because he’s one of those upstanding people who happens to be black… what hypocrisy!!! Who gives a crap if he got into Harvard with help… why do we have the Statue of Liberty??? ‘Poor,’ ‘huddled-masses,’ ring any bells? Though some Americans have evolved a fearful, close-minded culture, the rest of us still believe in giving people opportunities – any person. That means if you have the ability to ask for help, to go out and seek help, and then MAKE SOMETHING of yourself after getting said help, only to turn around and GIVE BACK… you are a productive and welcome member of society NO MATTER what your skin color is.
I would love, I mean love, to see any one of you claiming the “black friend” card to go up to your “black friend” and tell them that you think their success is due to you and your ilk giving them everything – due to you handing it to them – and see how much they agree with you, and in fact, see how much longer they are even your friend. Disgusting.
If you ask me, the problem is with people who make sweeping generalizations, rather than holding each individual responsible for their own actions. People who want to claim that an entire racial segment of society is dragging down all the rest, instead of seeing that the only people dragging down anything are the ones that spread hatred – and yes… that includes anyone from ANY race that hates and disparages on another. It includes anyone from any SEX, and RELIGION… the list goes on.
I will not be back to this site (which I’m sure will suit you all fine since rational thought is in short supply here anyway), but hopefully by taking a little time to speak my mind I have helped to broaden yours. There are more constructive things you could be doing to help your country than sitting here being racist hatemongers.
Who gives a crap if he got into Harvard with help… why do we have the Statue of Liberty???
May I quote you on that?
Anthony Ryan:
Your’s is the most shamefully racist writing I have seen in years. (And no, I am not black.)
For you to generalize about an entire group of people who happen to have the same color of skin shows just how ignorant you are.
Please do us all a favor and do not have children. The gene pool is polluted as it is, and one jerk like you is one too many.
For you to generalize about an entire group of people who happen to have the same color of skin shows just how ignorant you are.
How so? It’s impossible to generalize, or it’s just impolite to generalize? Or maybe he’s making the wrong generalizations. Please explain.
I swear, you guys are blind to everything except skin color, when it’s not your own.
BTW, GTO, I still don’t get your calling me racist because I mentioned your little clan/Klan that enjoys cross burning. If I was black that might almost make sense, but I’m not. I’ve just seen enough
crackersto recognize one…. or more.So, di, did you get the lowdown on the rape statistics? It’s not just rape, of course. Violent crime rates for blacks are many times that for whites, right across the board. Not to generalize, of course.
What do you suppose causes this? Institutional racism? Let’s get the big national conversation on race under way!
Say, they don’t have
crackersin Colorado, do they?I fear for the republic. America is not a true Democracy, it is a Democratic Republic.I fear that this socialist, entitlement fad is going to destroy the county and the ideals that I once took an oath to protect with my life.
Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?
Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
Every time someone disrespects the flag they might as well be spitting on the graves of these men. They disrespect all the people who have written that blank check to the United States of America. I could fill a book with my feelings on the state of America today;however; I will end with some quotes that should be seriously contemplated.
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
-Thomas Jefferson
My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
-Thomas Jefferson
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
-Thomas Jefferson
When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe .
-Thomas Jefferson
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
-Thomas Jefferson
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
-Thomas Jefferson
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
-Thomas Jefferson
It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.
-Thomas Jefferson
Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.
-Thomas Jefferson
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
-Thomas Jefferson
Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
-George Washington
A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicity.
- Thomas Jefferson
Posterity, you will never know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that ever I took half the pains to preserve it
-John Adams
Oh, there are a few, luke. But I became acquainted with that term being born in Georgia and attending undergraduate school in Tennessee.
I didn’t see the KKK out at the polling places this election like we did the Black Panthers (the black gang or black kkk)!
Why is it you keep bring up the KKK if you’re not racist?
Trickyguy
Too late—i already have kids. and i am teaching them traits that are rare these days–
i am teaching them to be responsible for their actions.
i am teaching them that the more one learns, the more one earns
i teach them to take care of themselves and their children one day
i teach them to take care of their communities
not to rely on the government or the charity of others, but to make their own way
i teach them to be law abiding
i teach them to pull up their pants so their underwear and ass isnt hanging out
i teach them to have respect for others—especially their elders
i teach them to have reverence for our veterans and the sacrifices that were made
i teach them to stay away from people who hide behind accusations and are afraid to challenge their beliefs for fear of being wrong—people like yourself
i teach them to do their research before spouting off about something they dont know about—unlike yourself
i teach them to look up the fbi statistics
the dea
the atf
its great that you have a differing opinion, but you cant back it with factual information–it is merely untested, unproven thought
do the extra step and enlighten yourself
have you ever heard a black person say that they have been afraid of approaching a group of blacks on a street?
is that racism?
or is that realism?
is it from hate?
or is it from experience and knowledge?
HATEMACHINE
EXCELLENT quotes
thank you for those
GOOD TIME POLITICS
you bring good thought and obsevations to this
i think we would be side to side at the OK Corral
Dioturd
you are still a
buttplugyou miss the point, you stray off topicyou desperately grab at straws in an attempt to distract
no one mentioned cross burning but you
Tricky guy
One more item: you mentioned ignorance
I believe i have demonstrated that i have done my due diligence in researching the facts and stats
that is not ignorant, it is informed
it may fly in the face of what you wish to believe, perhaps what you have been told and taught
but i have issued a challenge for you to do your own research, for if you do not, then you are the one who is ignorant
look at what happened to the crime trends in texas after the residents of new orleans were relocated
look at what happened to their schools
but as for now, i am not going to spoon feed you anymore
challenge your own beliefs—they will either stand up, at which time you will have been proven correct
or they will fall down, at which time you will have to adopt others (not necessarily mine)
but either way, you will be stronger for it
in reading my previous posts you should have all kinds of places where you can get started
go ahead
i dare ya
I stumbled onto this blog when I was reading about Obama’s inaugaration! It is great to see a practical reincarnation of Lincoln stepping into the white house to heal the great divides in our once indivisible country. One thing that really shocked me was the reported statistics on black crime! I am only seventeen but on all the tv shows most of the criminals are white. I just love NCIS and I don’t think there’s ever been a black criminal on there. Is the department of justice lying to us to make us thing bad things about blacks?
Yes, the DoJ is almost certainly making up numbers in order to make black people look bad.
Your TV shows do not lie. Criminals are nearly always white.
Also, OJ is innocent.
Luke
you almost always catch me off guard
sometimes it takes me a second to get a read on you
David
if they were to show black criminals proportionately represented, jesse jackson, al sharpton, the rainbow coalition, the aclu, etc would climb all over them and call them racist. keep in mind these are the same individuals who persecuted the la crosse team, persecuted those accused in the tawana brawley case, the jena 6, etc
see, a black guy will say yo yo yo if i gets caught wowkin froo a white hood, i gets stop by the po po
but if a white guy takes the wrong exit off of the interstate, his two year old will get killed in his car seat
(yes, that happened)
but i guess that is fair and equal right
and one more thing about fair and equal
i believe the best applicant should get into harvard–the highest gpa and the best lsat score.
there are a limited number of seats, and for an admissions board to choose a less qualified applicant merely due to race is discriminatory to the more qualified applicant regardless of race
now dont read into this
i am not saying that nobama wasnt the best qualified because im not privy to the applications of his competitors at the time
nor am i privy to his as he refuses to release them—for some reason
diocrap
i havent heard from you in a while
maybe you are off getting some sense
Hey Diofeces
I have a math problem for you
suppose that you work all week and you make 200 bucks (personally i think you would be overpaid for your contribution to society)
after being taxed at 35% you walk home with a mere 130 dollars (forget that this amount would fall into a lower bracket—this is merely an example)
you go to a bookstore and buy 100 dollars worth of books (hard to believe that you would buy a book too)
you pay sales tax of roughly 7%
you have paid out 42 percent already
but the store will pay the tax as income right
wrong
you pay it as they pass those costs on to the consumer
lets say that there was a 50% markup on those items
you pay 12.5 percent for them
you have paid out 54.5 percent taxes on money that you earned
this doesnt include property taxes on your land
property taxes on your vehicles that you already own—depending on the state
gas tax
etc
hey america, do you ever wonder why you work so hard and just cant seem to get ahead?
look at your tax situation
a glance at welfare
once on the gubmint dole
you are relegated to a fixed income
say you get 1000 per month
if you go out and work part time and make 300 dollars over that month, the government will now pay you only 700
so what is the incentive to work—its easier not to
once you fall into that hole, you are there forever
thats why people are on welfare generation after generation after generation
so while these people above are taking the time to demonstrate and celebrate
you are paying the bill by feeding them and housing them and buying their drugs
aint our system great
Simple words to live by
If you tax something, you get less of it.
If you subsidize something, you get more of it.
Tax work and saving, get less of it.
Subsidize idleness, get more of it.
Luke
I would be an honor to buy you a beer
Where did all the lightweights go?
DiodumbassGuy TricksMoon JigAre you doing your research and finding that i am right?
did you bail out because you cant stand the heat?
are you a quitter because you dont have what it takes to make a stand?
cant back your position?
what is it?
“god
damnblacks” Your words, not mine. Spin it all you want, there’s no reason and no justification for using such language. No stats, no half-truths, no sleight-of-hand tricks. Just inexcusable language.But fairly telling words.
Is that like Jeremiah Wright which Obama listen to for 20 years saying ” God
damnAmerica not God Bless America? Obama must not of been to upset about that languare so why should you be diogenes?Because:
1. Obama clearly said he thought it inappropriate, if you bothered to listen.
2. Obama doesn’t determine what I think is acceptable or unacceptable, just because I tend to agree with his positions so far.
3. If you found it offensive coming from Wright, when he said “God damn” properly as a noun and a verb, then why don’t you equally call out your dear new friend Antney when he uses the term as an adjective (which is clearly taking the Lord’s name in vain)?
Let’s quit trying to change the subject, GTP, and let your friend explain why he’s not racist, but he feels comfortable making blanket condemnations like G-D blacks?
Dio
I will hand you this opportunity:
Show me a compelling argument to demonstrate how i am wrong
not an isolated, random example but something convincing
africa is by far the wealthiest continent in the world
they have gold, shale, coal, timber, diamonds, oil, fresh water, tourism, hunting and fishing industries, etc
but every time someone puts their hand on something to better their lives, someone else lops it off with a machete
show me a black culture that is thriving…anywhere in the world
somewhere that a reasonable prudent person would want to live
haiti?
sierra lione?
liberia?
harlem?
watts?
even the blacks complain about the black communities and want out
they fear leaving their own homes due to violence and drugs—do you think that whitey is doing all the drive-bys
then they sit back and complain that the cops arent doing enough, but when questioned they say they aint seen nuffin
show me contradictory statistics that are just as strong
dont just nitpick what you dont want to hear
really show me something
dont sidetrack about one angry sentence but really dig and try to come through
i will be waiting
“One angry sentence”? Wow. Sorry, I won’t be able to play your game. I don’t play well with racists.
Feel free to play with your racist self, though.diogenes:Because:
1. Obama clearly said he thought it inappropriate, if you bothered to listen.
goodtimepolitics: After 20 years Obama decides its “inappropriate” ? Did you say inappropriate, isn’t that a light word to use! You really would defend Obama no matter what he does! Well it figures, cause there where people defending OJ when they knew he was guilty!
LOL “Inappropriate” is such a horsehit word. And lefties use it all the time.
Didn’t know you’d be parsing that. My characterization was that Obama said it was inappropriate.. be it horsehit or horseshit or whatever you wish to label it.
So I looked up Obama’s actual words. he said that he did “disagree and strongly condemn” Wright’s words. Not that that is any better by you guys.
Rev. Wright spoke what he saw as a truth. None of us here apparently agree with his assessment, but I do see where he’s coming from. And until most people can begin to understand where it comes from — not agree with, but at least understand where it comes from — we’ll continue to have problems.
Walking in another man’s shoes doesn’t mean you have to become that person. Being black isn’t contagious and it doesn’t rub off, so it really won’t hurt to try to show some empathy.
So are you saying that its was appropriate for Obama to sit and listen to Jeremiah Wright takeing god’s name in vain cursing the country that Obama wanted to be president of and allowing his two little girls to also listen to him diogenes? All is ok with you! Goodness you’re a lost soul.
Correction: Its Sierra Leone
i initially wrote lione
see
i can admit when im wrong
and i guess you dont want to play because you dont have any game to bring
i issued a challenge
you had nothing to offer
you have been defeated
i have no respect for weakness
nor for lack of courage to challenge ones convictions
nor for a lack of admission in the wake of overwhelming evidence
go shoot yourself
Check your Bible, GTP. Whether you agree with his assessment or not, Rev Wright did NOT takes the Lord’s name in vain. When you use the term G-D as an adjective (as in “those G-D blacks”) then it’s taking the Lord’s name in vain. Wright was calling upon God to damn America for its actions, based upon his interpretation of Scripture. I don’t agree with his assessment, but at least I understand (or try to) what he’s saying.
And it’s not my job to decide what’s best for Obama and his girls. I’m not saying it’s OK, and I’m not saying it’s not OK; I’m saying it’s none of my business.
Oh I didn’t expect you to say anything against your pure savior Barack Hussein Obama there diogenes! We know you have something warm running down your legs for him!
Did you hear that Obama friend the known terrorist was denied entry into Canada?
Thank you so much for the thoughtful and thought-provoking response, GTP. And I do apologize for trying to speak intelligently to your question, instead of sloughing it off with a hackneyed punchline.
Like I said, I didn’t expect you to say anything against your savior Barack Hussein Obama! You would follow him anywhere he wants to lead you! There are followers and there are leaders!
Let me tell you alittle story about what I seen today! There was this mouse that kept coming out of his hole smelling the bait, but them he would go back in the hole and soon he would come back out and smell the bait again. The mouse did this until he couldn’t stand it anymore and he went for the bait! Think about it!
Ryan:
Since you and your similarly inclined bloggers seem to have nothing better to do than post endlessly on this site and pat each other on the backs, I’ll tell you that I have a life. I question whether you do, if you have so much time on your hands.
However, don’t be so presumptuous as to assume you know me. You do not, and from your writing, I am thankful for that fact.
Also, do not assume that a few supposed facts support the broad generalizations you make about a race of people that have nothing more in common than the color of their skin. That is, by definition, racism.
If you are as educated as you claim, you know that.
And, if you are educated as you claim, you will allow facts and analysis to speak for themselves and leaving the name calling to the four graders at your nearest elementary school.
I find I have become bored with you much more quickly than you seem to have with the other bloggers with whom you engage in running battle.
Do indeed use your facts. Convince us you are right by them, not by the name calling and racial generalizations you’ve used to date.
I remain willing to be convinced by you; right now all I am is ashamed for you.
Also, do not assume that a few supposed facts support the broad generalizations you make about a race of people that have nothing more in common than the color of their skin.
Are you saying that nothing correlates with skin color? There are no behaviors that we can expect to observe more often in people of one race or another?
Luke
Dont waste you time with Trick.
He contributes nothing…neither as friend nor foe.
He is no ally, and he has shown that he is not even a worthy adversary.
He is just another coward who hides behind the facade of being a “better person” by trying to show a false empathy.
“…im ashamed for you”
i feel so sad for you…
HEY DIO-Skid
I saw that you dodged the question again and diverted to religion this time
now i know why the g d reference stuck in your craw
still hiding behind someone else—this time its jesus
when are you going to stand up on your own
when are you going to take personal responsibility
how about an original thought! it appears that you have been spoon- fed ALL of your beliefs
notice the tall freaky looking black man, black cats or some Negro out of Africa, he looks real outta place there, Looks like some of the black panthers at the voting booths. And with those 60 something year old black and appears to be ignorant women,
I bet they have NEVER waved a real United States flag in their life’s, if these people had any type of loyalty to the United States and or the flag there’s no way
‘Mac Daddy’would be on there, its shameful 3rd. graders should know better, poor ‘old glory’ she been pimped out to some‘African Mac Daddy’now and all his cronies………:(I am hanging my flag upside down,
WE are in a world of distress!
Oh no, it’s not religion, it’s racism,
jerkweed.And until you answer my question, I’ll disregard any you pose.
Dio
What was your question?
Although you have not been able to answer any of mine, i will try my best to address yours.
And i will back it with a reference if it warrants one.
Diogenes how exactly do you define racism? When people ask you questions you just respond by calling them racist! But these massive crimes against whites still exist. I went back and read the statistics. 37,000 white women raped by black men. Statistically zero were raped by white men. Wouldn’t that seem to indicate a race issue that needs to be adressed, not with hate but with bipartisian cooperation?
I am and was referring to the racist “G-D blacks”. There’s no way of interpreting that telling comment other than to understand the inherent racism of the commenter.
It’s not so much a question as it is bewilderment that anyone who would utter such a phrase could then pretend not to be a racist. There is no excuse for using that phrase as a blanket condemnation for a whole race, and the writer deserves to be called out for it.
I too believe it is wrong to charachterize all the blacks by the actions of the great majority of them.
DL, you’re right, It is wrong, mistaken in fact, to characterize an individual by skin color. But politics in this country often involves blacks as a group, the original Designated Victim Group, and so their group failings are relevnat to the political debate. Think how much mortgage money was thrown at unqualified wannabe-homeowners-of-color, just because of their color. Think of how the rest of us are paying for it.
GTP
My response wont post!
Hey David
Let me inform you of a few things
(you are the only one who bothered to do your own research—good)
These might look a little dry, but they are actually interesting
Keep in mind, that the african american population is only 14%
Drug Abuse Violations
Year All Races White Nonwhite
2001 587.2 450.2 1,165.6
01 was the last year they had on file
this can be confirmed by the fbi website at
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/addpubs.htm
Sex Offenses
Year All Races White Nonwhite
2001 33.0 29.1 49.5
confirmed at the same site above
Gambling
Year All Races White Nonwhite
2001 6.4 3.1 20.0
Drug Abuse Violations
Age and Sex
Under 18
Year Total White Nonwhite
2001 287.4 260.4 376.4
Over 18
Total White Nonwhite
689.6 510.6 1,519.2
Sex Offenses
Under 18
Total White Nonwhite
25.7 22.6 36.3
18 and over
35.5 31.2 55.4
Weapons Violations
Under 18
Total White Nonwhite
53.4 44.2 83.7
anthony, check your choice of words and try again.
there is nothing written that is caustic
it isnt too long
dont know why it wont post
Dio
to address your issue—i understand that there are no absolutes
however, i think it is safe to make generalizations about many things
basketball players are tall–a generalization, and of course some are of average height or less
nurses are generally women, of course there are many who are men
and on
i am fully aware that there are numerous upstanding people of color who are educated and are professional
but i am not referring to the individual
i am referring to the culture
you refuse to recognize any statistic, any fact, any finding
there are some individuals of color who i presently know who are welcome in my home, that we know each others families, and spend time
there are others who i dont care to know at all
many of the things i have stated have been concerns from within the black community about the black culture
for the reasons stated above, i refuse to call myself a racist, but a realist
get over it and quit using it as a diversion
Anthony, you do not know whether I am a coward or not. Nor do you know that any empathy I may display is false.
You really had nothing to refute what I wrote except more name calling. Your writing is racist, plain and simple.
But it is a waste of time to banter back and forth with a racist. The world will be a better place when everyone realizes that skin color is nothing but color. It has nothing to do with intelligence, honesty, character, or any other trait.
But regardless of how illogical and obviously nonsensical the tenets of racism are, there will likely always be folks like you, Anthony, who cling to them.
That is when I hope the forces of nature first noted by Darwin, natural selection and survival of the fittest, combine to cleanse the gene pool of you and your ilk.
Hell, even the computer doesn’t like you, it won’t post your crap anymore.
anthony ryan: My response wont post.
goodtimepolitics: I don’t see any comments that have not been posted anthony. None what so ever waiting moderation. Sorry!
The world will be a better place when everyone realizes that skin color is nothing but color.
Trick, it’s clear to me that your soul is perfect, but you haven’t answered my question. Do you believe that skin color has zero correlation with behavior?
Obama is white with a suntan! I still don’t see where the blacks thinks he’s like them just because he has dark skin!
What he is is weird. In background, he has zero in common with most American blacks. Raised by white folks, except the Indonesian temporary stepdad. High school in Hawaii, with zero black classmates. Off to college, where he hangs with foreign students and white radicals. Works for a bit at a real job, in an office full of white people. Then, all of a sudden, he’s off to organize Chicago’s South Side, and the rest is weird history. I wonder what Stanley Kurtz is investigatig now.
Tricky guy
very fitting name by the way—im not hiding behind a screen name
anyway,
you havent brought anything to the table
i have given stats compiled by an accountable federal agency (many to be accurate)
and yes, i believe in darwinism, where the weak, the meager, the lame, the maladjusted, the naive will be eliminated
what did you write that was worthy of being refuted
what have you even said
my posts have never even been addressed
i issued an open challenge
name any predominantly black culture, anywhere in the world, where a normal, reasonable, prudent person would want to live
i would gladly buy you a ticket to darfur
or somalia
haiti
liberia
sierra leone
and i mean that, i would
(its one way of course)–but i will put my money where my mouth is
you would have to live there
a d r e s s t h e i s s u e
dont dodge
dont bob and weave
stand for what you believe
ALL
there are three strategies for defense
attack the evidence
attack the law
attack the attacker
Dio and Trick cant attack the evidence, its compiled by federal agencies who are accountable for their statistics. collegiate papers (to a doctorate level) depend on their accuracy. academic institutions all over the world refer to this data. scientists rely on the data for worldwide health.
NOTICE—neither one of them will address the data itself
next is attack the law–not applicable
the only thing they have is to attack the attacker–to erode my credibility.
so they call me racist, then when hit with another point, they change it up by calling me racist
then, to be original, they call me racist
when asked again to look at the evidence, and hit me from another creative angle by calling me racist
then, when all else fails, they resort to pointing the finger and saying (you guessed it—they have nothing else) racist
next will be nazi or some other crap because they cant stand to the facts
GTP
i tried to post another writing, but it wouldnt post either
the one from yesterday finally posted today after a long delay
im overseas, maybe that is part of it ??
and DIO-rrhea, dont assume anything from that
im hanging out with some friends–i spend about 8 months a year here
Total White Nonwhite
53.4 44.2 83.7
18 and over
Total White Nonwhite
63.5 43.7 155.0
Offenders
http://www.fbi.gov/filelink.html?file=/ucr/adducr/jva%20rsar%20b_omr.xls
Sex Offenses
Under 18
Black Other Nonwhite
51.0 6.5
18 and over
Black Other Nonwhite
75.6 15.9
There are other stats for fraud, weapons, embezzlement, etc
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/lf/aat5.txt
this site is for labor stats
for the same years, blacks are twice as likely to be unemployed as whites
Center for Disease Control
http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats07/minorities.htm
Blacks – In 2007, approximately 48% of all chlamydia cases occurred among blacks…more than eight times that among whites. (**48 percent of all cases by only 14% of the population!!)
The chlamydia rate among black men was more than 11 times higher than that among white men
approximately 70% of the total number of reported cases of gonorrhea occurred among blacks
the rate of gonorrhea among blacks in the United States was 19 times greater than that among whites
46.0% of all cases of P&S syphilis reported to CDC were among blacks
rate among black women was 14 times higher than that among white women
the rate of congenital syphilis (based on the mothers race/ethnicity) was 32.3 cases per 100,000 live births among blacks and 15.3 cases per 100,000 live births among Hispanics. These rates are 14 and 6.6 times higher, respectively, than the 2007 rate among whites (2.3 cases per 100,000 live births)
There is much much more information about obesity, heart disease, alcoholism, drug addiction, etc
On to intelligence
http://www.apsu.edu/oconnort/crim/crimtheory03.htm
African Americans (as well as some other minority groups), on average, score about 15 points below those of European ancestry on intelligence tests. Many studies have consistently found (and there’s no getting around the fact) that the average IQ of an African American is 85 while the average IQ of a white American is 100, and that one in five African Americans have an average IQ of 75 (Seligman 1992).
51-70 mildly retarded
71-90 slow learner
91-110 average
i could go on and on
but here is an appetizer, backed by federal information, educational institutions, and medical research
DIO-rrhea
Trickygayhave a terrific day
eat some crow, ill buy
If the comment has an URL in it then moderation waiting takes effect. I have to do that because you would be suprize at some of the URL’s that are posted. I will check to see where your post is.
OK you guys, we have to remember that this really is not black against white, or white against black. Its the Barack Obama stand on the issues that we’re concern about. There is good and bad people in both white and black races! Lets try and cool it back to the issues and our great country please!
our former great country
Well said, GTP. Maybe we ought to save the gloomy stats for actual policy arguments, instead of hauling them out every time a twit like Trick starts screaming “Racist!”
JFK, the poster boy for liberalism, in his most famous quote stated “Ask not what your country can do for you…”
Now, that IS the liberal agenda—to encourage everyone to ask what freeby they can get
socialism will take us the way england and france have gone…once great countries, now socialist and thus economically dormant
canada has socialized medicine, and do you know where canadians go for healthcare?
DETROIT
it doesnt work
and to let the government (the lawmakers) hold your health in their hands is a colossal mistake. once they realize that healthcare is expensive, they will reduce costs. tobacco will be gone or not covered. same with fast-food, trans-fats (like doritos or oreos, gone!), alcohol, etc.
one day, its very possible to have your reproductive functions regulated–like china
think of all the people in the worlds history who risked their life to flee socialism, now we are trying to adopt it because we think its free swag
pathetic
im embarrassed of my fellow countrymen
We have to get back to remaking America, says the Prez, the Prez the Obama.
I was just readin an article stating that he wanted a “transparent” administration
i suppose this would thwart any allegations of misconduct
funny
since he refuses to release his college applications
he refuses to release any records which would show how his education was funded
he refuses to release his transcripts
he refuses to state who contributed to his campaign
he refuses to release his net worth
refuses to comment on his relationship with bill ayers
refuses to comment on his work with ACORN
what a travesty
Obama transparent my foot, anthony ryan I have the old feeling that the American people will be sick and tired of Obama the lier within six months! Most of his votes came from people that was looking for a socialist check handout which they might not get as he is putting the bail out money other places. These people will get mad sooner or later when the cost of food and other products go up and they have to pay more taxes on these products and gas at the pumps! Tax cut…no way! Even the poor will be paying more!
i hope you are correct
but i think he is too much of a rockstar to be viewed with any scrutiny at all
when he was campaigning, he said he had a plan to turn the economy around immediately
the other day he said “this might take a few years, or even more than one term”
he is already running for his next term!
and no one is calling him on it
he also said that he is taking the next week to meet with advisors to develop a plan
what happened to the plan that he promised everyone that he had
again, no one calls him on it
if anything, i think it will be 8 years of inaction—he is so afraid of the wrong decision that he refuses to make any decision
just like his tenure in the senate
140 days of nothing
You have him pin right there ryan, now go up to my last post tonight and read it and see that it falls right in place of what you’re saying!
Obama its now 22 Jan 2009, Obama: I’ll Have Plenty To Say About Gaza War After Jan. 20th (Well?)
yea, i read it and i hope that you are correct,
but there is so much fervor and enthusiasm about him
people who have no idea about him nor his agenda are intoxicated by his speeches
i will give him credit for being an exceptional orator
but the average american cant even define socialism
the average american has no idea about bidens history
and hasnt even heard of pelosi
pelosi scares me more than anyone
and there are no checks and balances as the entire under-cabinet is dominated by the democrats
this is a runaway train
HAVANA, Cuba (CNN) — Fidel Castro appeared “very well” during a Wednesday meeting with Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, telling Fernandez he watched President Obama’s inauguration on television, Argentina’s official news agency reported.
Castro said he believes Obama is “a sincere person with good ideas,” Kirchner said in Cuba at the conclusion of a three-day visit, according to the state-run Telam news agency.
“We talked about all subjects,” Kirchner said. “I found him very well. We talked about the international situation.”
No Jobs For White Males: Robert Reich
Former Clinton-era Secretary of Labor and Obama economic adviser Robert Reich made this stunningly-anti-white comment during a House Committee hearing on Jan. 9, 2009. Charlie “Red” Rangel also chimes in by saying “the Middle Class will not fight back”, leading many to believe the Obama Administration is planning on a massive wealth redistribution campaign.
January 22, 2009
I can’t believe Obama is planning to shut down Guantanamo. I can understand, if not necessarily agree with, putting in place some measures to make sure there are no inhumane practices going on in Gtmo that could be used against America in a propaganda campaign by the leftist media and subversive liberals – similiar to the way waterboarding was used. But shut it down completely? Where exactly does he plan on putting these suicide bombers, murderers, and terrorists? He’ll probably make them college professors so he can help, “young Americans understand the opposing point of view.” He reminds me of a ghetto thug running around flashing his nasty gold teeth with his pants around his knees – he’s all cheap flash and stunts to get attention, with no real substance.
Beautifully said David
Isnt far more peaceful without the senseless idiotic ramblings of DIOrrhea and Prickyguy
i guess they figured out thats its better for them not to get back up
how about this for an idea–once gitmo has more room, we can send all the bleeding heart liberals there like the aclu, the naacp, ACORN, etc
Hey GTP
where the hell did everyone go
did the states melt down or what
We’re still here! LOL
Oh yes, we’re still here. But I am a bit tired of trying to respond to Anthony’s name calling. I really just feel sorry for him.
Sorry though, Luke, forgot to answer and let me be really clear. THERE IS NO CORRELATION BETWEEN SKIN COLOR AND ANY PARTICULAR TYPE OF BEHAVIOR.
You might wish to consult some scientific text if you doubt that statement. But I’d imagine your buddy Anthony could dig up an extremist web site somewhere that would offer contradicting “facts”.
THERE IS NO CORRELATION BETWEEN SKIN COLOR AND ANY PARTICULAR TYPE OF BEHAVIOR.
Man, you’re in deep.
interesting
darwin would certainly argue with you
i have some labs, and even without training they have behaviors that are identical to other labs
i have had dobermans who act amazingly similar to other dobes that they had never been around
forgive the analogies, but this is basic animal behavior
i suppose the posting from the fbi, etc were too complex for you to bother reading, trick
i have accepted your challenge, and i did some internet research
i found all the federal agencies, the sociologists, the criminologists, the forensic statisticians, the psychologists, real estate agents, land developers, law enforcement, and the judicial system all to be wrong
trick, as it turns out you are the only one who is correct
you are a genius
hey, any more thought on my offer to fly to sierra leone, haiti, or liberia
They say Guadeloupe is nice this time of year.
i thought of another way to express my point
we have all heard of stories of twins separated at birth but yet during their lives they pursued the same educational disciplines, had the same careers, married spouses who look similar, had the same kind of dogs, etc
i was watching tv last night, and this guy was raising orphaned cheetahs
on instinct alone, they still chased rabbits and hunted
there are behaviors that are genetically pre-programmed, instinctual
but then when one observes the behavior of rogue elephants, there is a synergism of bad behavior which continues to get worse as time goes on
sociologists refer to this phenomenon as wilding
its like how a mob will act in ways much more violent than individuals will by themselves
like in the ghettos, or in prisons
trick
you still have not made a single contribution to this topic
you state an opinion, which you have not been able to support with any credible third party documentation
so all you are able to do is to continue to say the same unsubstantiated comments as you stomp your feet and insist
its boring
for those of you who can think and interpret, here is an interesting site from the department of justice
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
one more thing, Trick
you mentioned “extremist” websites from where i obtained my “‘facts’”
i dont think any reasonable person would consider the fbi, dea, cdc, doj, etc to be extremist
you have proven that you are not reasonable, do not research your points, do not research those of your opponents (their point of view and “facts”), and thus are not worthy of debate as you offer nothing
you continue to insist that the emporer IS wearing clothes only because its what you want to believe. you try to convince others by playing the same ol record repetitiously
when challenged by others, you stomp your feet and whine, but still offer no compelling evidence
all,
as i have stated above, there are three types of defense
he attacks the attacker
he attacks the supporters
but he can not attack the evidence
trick…go away
i am apathetic, bored, and utterly exasperated with the likes of you and your ilk
i have issued challenges for you, and even spoon-fed you some data for you to read…which you have refused to do
typical
i wont address you again as you are not worth the time until you bother to get caught up and show you have put in some effort