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		<title>By: lukemcgook</title>
		<link>http://goodtimepolitics.com/2008/12/22/barack-obamas-labor-pick-has-communist-ties/#comment-4473</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, after reading the WND article and following some links, I&#039;d have to say Hilda is pretty closely associated, hence pretty guilty.  Dem-Soc honcho Harold Meyerson,  Blago-buddy  Andy Stern , and onetime Sandanista stooge David Bonior have all worked with her in one misguided cause or another and all think she&#039;s the commie cat&#039;s pajamas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, after reading the WND article and following some links, I&#8217;d have to say Hilda is pretty closely associated, hence pretty guilty.  Dem-Soc honcho Harold Meyerson,  Blago-buddy  Andy Stern , and onetime Sandanista stooge David Bonior have all worked with her in one misguided cause or another and all think she&#8217;s the commie cat&#8217;s pajamas.</p>
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		<title>By: lukemcgook</title>
		<link>http://goodtimepolitics.com/2008/12/22/barack-obamas-labor-pick-has-communist-ties/#comment-4471</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lukemcgook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jag, Marxism lives and is more destructive than ever; it&#039;s just that you don&#039;t recognize it without the missile launchers.  There&#039;s a great swath of our official culture where truth has been mown down and a more or less self-conscious crop of Marxists has grown up.  Here&#039;s Theodore Dalrymple (aka Anthony Daniels, and highly recommended) on one of the most obvious and troublesome Marxist artifacts.    

&lt;i&gt;Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One&#039;s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jag, Marxism lives and is more destructive than ever; it&#8217;s just that you don&#8217;t recognize it without the missile launchers.  There&#8217;s a great swath of our official culture where truth has been mown down and a more or less self-conscious crop of Marxists has grown up.  Here&#8217;s Theodore Dalrymple (aka Anthony Daniels, and highly recommended) on one of the most obvious and troublesome Marxist artifacts.    </p>
<p><i>Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One&#8217;s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Moon Jaguar</title>
		<link>http://goodtimepolitics.com/2008/12/22/barack-obamas-labor-pick-has-communist-ties/#comment-4467</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moon Jaguar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ooooh, scary!  &quot;Ties&quot; to commies!   Too bad NOTHING in the ridiculous Wingnut Daily story suggests she has ANY ties to the CPUSA or other communist groups.  That&#039;s the extreme right wing&#039;s special brand of phony guilt by association.   No basis in reality as usual.

Hasn&#039;t anyone told you that communism and Marxism are virtually extinct on this planet?  Their power to frighten has faded significantly since the end of the Cold War.  Time for y&#039;all to move into the 21st century.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh, scary!  &#8220;Ties&#8221; to commies!   Too bad NOTHING in the ridiculous Wingnut Daily story suggests she has ANY ties to the CPUSA or other communist groups.  That&#8217;s the extreme right wing&#8217;s special brand of phony guilt by association.   No basis in reality as usual.</p>
<p>Hasn&#8217;t anyone told you that communism and Marxism are virtually extinct on this planet?  Their power to frighten has faded significantly since the end of the Cold War.  Time for y&#8217;all to move into the 21st century.</p>
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		<title>By: rjjrdq</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Hispanic caucus threatened to make Obama&#039;s life miserable if he didn&#039;t put some token Hispanics in his administration. Solis doesn&#039;t need any redeeming qualities. Her qualification is race.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hispanic caucus threatened to make Obama&#8217;s life miserable if he didn&#8217;t put some token Hispanics in his administration. Solis doesn&#8217;t need any redeeming qualities. Her qualification is race.</p>
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		<title>By: lukemcgook</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lukemcgook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And, oh yeah, Solis is a sold out union hack.  Card Check all the way for Hilda.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, oh yeah, Solis is a sold out union hack.  Card Check all the way for Hilda.</p>
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		<title>By: lukemcgook</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lukemcgook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anon, thanks for the &lt;i&gt;What&#039;s The Matter With Kansas&lt;/i&gt; talking points.  

Here&#039;s a good summary of some recent research by the Minneapolis Fed.

http://krusekronicle.typepad.com/kruse_kronicle/2008/10/the-myth-of-the-stagnate-middle-class.html

Personal income has risen 80% over three decades.  Household income, otoh, has risen sluggishly, but only because household formation has been so feeble ... for better or for worse, we&#039;re more a nation of singles now, and less a nation of families.  Income inequality is greater after thirty years (though unchanged since the Clinton years) because the top quintile has gotten richer faster, not because lower quintiles have gotten poorer.  This is typical of a growing economy. And if you want to get all blue collar about it, here are the BLS figures that union howlers like to cite, &quot;average hours and earnings of production and nonsupervisory workers&quot;

ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb2.txt

You&#039;ll need your inflation calculator to make sense of this one (have someone show you how to use Google).  Average (real) weekly earnings have indeed remained nearly unchanged since 1981, but 1) we&#039;re working fewer hours at a higher hourly rate, and 2) real earnings actually declined in the years prior to 1981.  The trend improves with Reagan and his mythical war on wage-earners!  Also, note that workers in the construction trades have been doing OK.  It&#039;s miners and factory workers whose weekly earnings haven&#039;t kept up with the general improvement.  How is personal income so much higher under the circumstances?  Blue collar employment is a smaller fraction of the total all the time.  More and more, we&#039;re white collar and we&#039;re self-employed.  Good thing or bad thing?  Well, most of us are richer and very few of us are poorer.  If your grandfather spent his workday bolting part A to part B 34 times an hour, until he hurt from his shoulders on down (Ever done factory work?), I suspect he&#039;d approve of the way things have been going.

Anyhow, when you claim &quot;real wages permanently down over that period with losses by workers absorbed into the bloated gains of the top two percent,&quot; you&#039;re up your anonymous.  The people who cling to their religion and guns have a very clear idea of their own interests.  Watch them over the next couple years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon, thanks for the <i>What&#8217;s The Matter With Kansas</i> talking points.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a good summary of some recent research by the Minneapolis Fed.</p>
<p><a href="http://krusekronicle.typepad.com/kruse_kronicle/2008/10/the-myth-of-the-stagnate-middle-class.html" rel="nofollow">http://krusekronicle.typepad.com/kruse_kronicle/2008/10/the-myth-of-the-stagnate-middle-class.html</a></p>
<p>Personal income has risen 80% over three decades.  Household income, otoh, has risen sluggishly, but only because household formation has been so feeble &#8230; for better or for worse, we&#8217;re more a nation of singles now, and less a nation of families.  Income inequality is greater after thirty years (though unchanged since the Clinton years) because the top quintile has gotten richer faster, not because lower quintiles have gotten poorer.  This is typical of a growing economy. And if you want to get all blue collar about it, here are the BLS figures that union howlers like to cite, &#8220;average hours and earnings of production and nonsupervisory workers&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb2.txt" rel="nofollow">ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb2.txt</a></p>
<p>You&#8217;ll need your inflation calculator to make sense of this one (have someone show you how to use Google).  Average (real) weekly earnings have indeed remained nearly unchanged since 1981, but 1) we&#8217;re working fewer hours at a higher hourly rate, and 2) real earnings actually declined in the years prior to 1981.  The trend improves with Reagan and his mythical war on wage-earners!  Also, note that workers in the construction trades have been doing OK.  It&#8217;s miners and factory workers whose weekly earnings haven&#8217;t kept up with the general improvement.  How is personal income so much higher under the circumstances?  Blue collar employment is a smaller fraction of the total all the time.  More and more, we&#8217;re white collar and we&#8217;re self-employed.  Good thing or bad thing?  Well, most of us are richer and very few of us are poorer.  If your grandfather spent his workday bolting part A to part B 34 times an hour, until he hurt from his shoulders on down (Ever done factory work?), I suspect he&#8217;d approve of the way things have been going.</p>
<p>Anyhow, when you claim &#8220;real wages permanently down over that period with losses by workers absorbed into the bloated gains of the top two percent,&#8221; you&#8217;re up your anonymous.  The people who cling to their religion and guns have a very clear idea of their own interests.  Watch them over the next couple years.</p>
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		<title>By: goodtimepolitics</title>
		<link>http://goodtimepolitics.com/2008/12/22/barack-obamas-labor-pick-has-communist-ties/#comment-4451</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Alittle information for you &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt; who commented above.&lt;/em&gt;


&lt;blockquote&gt;For example, in September 1999, the Times noted that, &quot;Fannie Mae, the nation&#039;s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stockholders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.&quot; 

The 1999 piece went even further: 

&quot;In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times,&quot; the Times noted presciently. &quot;But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980&#039;s.&quot; 

Likewise, the Times made no mention over the weekend of President Clinton&#039;s aggressive deregulation of the financial services industry, which empowered banks, brokerage firms and insurance companies to engage in some of the very practices -- such as credit default swaps -- that contributed most to the current fiscal crisis. 

While the Times mentioned that mortgage bankers and brokers donated almost $850,000 to President Bush&#039;s 2004 re-election campaign, the newspaper omitted the fact that the top three recipients of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae and its sister organization Freddie Mac over the last two decades were all Democrats. 

Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd, head of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs; President-elect Barack Obama; and Bush&#039;s 2004 opponent John Kerry all benefited from Fannie and Freddie. 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/22/white-house-fires-times-housing-meltdown-story/&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Alittle information for you <strong>Anonymous</strong> who commented above.</em></p>
<blockquote><p>For example, in September 1999, the Times noted that, &#8220;Fannie Mae, the nation&#8217;s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stockholders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.&#8221; </p>
<p>The 1999 piece went even further: </p>
<p>&#8220;In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times,&#8221; the Times noted presciently. &#8220;But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980&#8242;s.&#8221; </p>
<p>Likewise, the Times made no mention over the weekend of President Clinton&#8217;s aggressive deregulation of the financial services industry, which empowered banks, brokerage firms and insurance companies to engage in some of the very practices &#8212; such as credit default swaps &#8212; that contributed most to the current fiscal crisis. </p>
<p>While the Times mentioned that mortgage bankers and brokers donated almost $850,000 to President Bush&#8217;s 2004 re-election campaign, the newspaper omitted the fact that the top three recipients of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae and its sister organization Freddie Mac over the last two decades were all Democrats. </p>
<p>Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd, head of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs; President-elect Barack Obama; and Bush&#8217;s 2004 opponent John Kerry all benefited from Fannie and Freddie.<br />
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/22/white-house-fires-times-housing-meltdown-story/" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/22/white-house-fires-times-housing-meltdown-story/</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: goodtimepolitics</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He got it because these far left nuts thinks he is their savior and that they will get all the freebies!  But instead as we see happening he is spreading the wealth not to the poor people that voted for him, but to his rich friends!  Its going to get much worst as time goes by.  I&#039;m like you Matt H wondering how these people was suckered into voting for him!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He got it because these far left nuts thinks he is their savior and that they will get all the freebies!  But instead as we see happening he is spreading the wealth not to the poor people that voted for him, but to his rich friends!  Its going to get much worst as time goes by.  I&#8217;m like you Matt H wondering how these people was suckered into voting for him!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt H</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not surprised at all. Obama is a Marxist, so it&#039;s a natural pick for his cabinet.

Obama .... I am still wondering how he got it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprised at all. Obama is a Marxist, so it&#8217;s a natural pick for his cabinet.</p>
<p>Obama &#8230;. I am still wondering how he got it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Republicans (and some conservative &quot;Democrats&quot;) have been successfully making war on the working class since Reagan: real wages permanently down over that period with losses by workers absorbed into the bloated gains of the top two percent. Distressingly, workers themselves have frequently voted their own worst enemies into office, responding to appeals to their deepest cultural and religious prejudices. Behind closed doors, Republican leaders refer to the religious conservative voters as &quot;the crazies.&quot; They know that by shouting &quot;gay marriage,&quot; &quot;abortion,&quot; and non-too-subtle racial code words, they can get many working people to vote against their own economic self-interest. The harshest moral opprobrium should be saved for the natural leaders of the working class: their preachers. Those co-opted thieves consistently find that the gospel of Christ requires voting in tandem with the union-busting, women-and-children-robbing, community-impoverishing, enemies of the people.

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;goodtimepolitics&lt;/em&gt;: Reagan was not tied to the socialist Party.  Obama has used the race card during this campaign more than any of the republicans.  Back when the democrats took charge of congress the unemployment was at an all time low, prices was still down and affordable.  The first thing the democrats did was raise fed min wages (not even as high as companies was already paying) and by doing so it cause the companies to raise their prices on their products plus on food. The democrats forced the banks to give loans to people that they knew could never make the payments.  This crisis that we&#039;re in is a democrat made crisis.  And its funny that it all came down one month before election day!  McCain was leading the race at the time.&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republicans (and some conservative &#8220;Democrats&#8221;) have been successfully making war on the working class since Reagan: real wages permanently down over that period with losses by workers absorbed into the bloated gains of the top two percent. Distressingly, workers themselves have frequently voted their own worst enemies into office, responding to appeals to their deepest cultural and religious prejudices. Behind closed doors, Republican leaders refer to the religious conservative voters as &#8220;the crazies.&#8221; They know that by shouting &#8220;gay marriage,&#8221; &#8220;abortion,&#8221; and non-too-subtle racial code words, they can get many working people to vote against their own economic self-interest. The harshest moral opprobrium should be saved for the natural leaders of the working class: their preachers. Those co-opted thieves consistently find that the gospel of Christ requires voting in tandem with the union-busting, women-and-children-robbing, community-impoverishing, enemies of the people.</p>
<p><strong><em>goodtimepolitics</em>: Reagan was not tied to the socialist Party.  Obama has used the race card during this campaign more than any of the republicans.  Back when the democrats took charge of congress the unemployment was at an all time low, prices was still down and affordable.  The first thing the democrats did was raise fed min wages (not even as high as companies was already paying) and by doing so it cause the companies to raise their prices on their products plus on food. The democrats forced the banks to give loans to people that they knew could never make the payments.  This crisis that we&#8217;re in is a democrat made crisis.  And its funny that it all came down one month before election day!  McCain was leading the race at the time.</strong></p>
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